Far Beyond Collective Punishment. Lebanon: Starvation or Submission

Arab leaders are just NOT. Worse than comatose. Spoiled, soft with no guts or balls.
The proof: stupid statements proclaimed after their meeting today.
Anarchistian you’re right, we are-as always-on our own. Let’s take solace with Gazans and Palestinians. By the way, what is going on there now?

PM Sanyoura wept on TV tonight. He said something to the effect of: shit man, we, the gov’t, told them (Israelis) that we do not condone the capture of their soldiers and yet they are destroying Lebanon.

The ports of Tripoli, Jounyeh, Beirut, the new light house in Beirut were among places hit today. The port of Beirut has enough wheat to feed us for some time in this blockade. Now it is also targeted.

I am glad my parents agreed to leave my house in St Terez today. It is a tad more than 500 meters away from Haret Hureik and Bir al Abid, where their home (my childhood) is. These two places were and are still being hit heavily, since the after noon, just after we left. Heavy cloud and dust cover the entire landscape. This morning they were almost empty. Majority of the civilians just left everything behind and left from fear of the bombardment. They have seen this before. 1996, 1993, 1982 just to mention a few dates. These two places are heavily populated with normal simple folks.

More and more roads and bridges all over Lebanon are being destroyed cutting people and families from each other.

Saad Hariri accused Israel of plotting for internal discord and conflict. Sah el nom. After this is over the gov’t should resign.

Bush believes that all the destruction and death – 100 dead, 300 injured, billions of US dollars in loses so far – are still not a worthy price for the clipped and discarded toe nail of one of the soldiers captured.

21 comments

  1. the perpetual refugee · · Reply

    Well said Bashir. Well said.

  2. Anonymous · · Reply

    Finally your PM is showing some leadership when he agrees to take responsibility over your southern border with Israel. 5 years too late, but better late than never.I amazes me over and over again to watch you guys force Israel (which has one of the most powerful western military force) into a violent conflict once in a decade, and get severely hit. You all should stop believing religious fanatics and start living your life in peace.It is time for you guys to understand: freedom and prosperity cannot go on forever without maturity and responsibility.When this will end, in a couple of weeks or maybe months, your country will regenerate, but how, its up to you and your friends to decide, do you want another showdown with Israel, or do you want to enjoy the fruits of peace.Not so far from you, and getting closer,“The Agent”

  3. Anarchistian · · Reply

    Bashir,The pigs withdrew from central Gaza, but today they fired a missile into an apartment building, I think killing 2, and injuring a number of others, including babies.After this is over, there will be no government.This is not about the soldiers or HezbAllah man.

  4. I love Munich · · Reply

    Not only your government should – in my humble opinion – resign but the governments of ALL Arab countries which sit and look … and do NOTHING to help! As far as I am aware, ONLY the Syrian government offered help by opening their boarders and offering their resources – nobody else! ALL the other governments should hide in a hole and turn green from shame … it is most disgusting!!

  5. Anonymous · · Reply

    The world actually sees the situation as it is. Lebanon performed a brutal attack on Israel, an attack which was rightfully interpreted as an act of war. And now you shed “Alligator Tears”. Come on.. Looks to me like you are trying hard to believe to your own lies.You know very well that your entire country is infested with extremist, war-pursuing terrorists. These guys don’t really care of you. They are not making a living from tourism, merchentile and such. They say they’re your friends but they (and you know it) don’t give a damn about Lebanon. They see Lebanon only as a tool.

  6. Kevin · · Reply

    Ok, I have a comment for you that was posted. I would like you to respond to it and tell me if this is the “correct” way of looking at the situation. jon says, “If the Lebanese government wishes to save its citizens then it needs to expel Hezbollah once and for all. The only reason Israel is even firing into Lebanon is because of Hezbollah’s unprovoked aggression against Israel.Givng the terrorist organization safe haven within its border is putting the citizens of Lebanon in danger. Israel is only defending itself from the aggression of Hezbollah.I feel for the innocent people that are being affected by the violence, but they should be turning to their government and demanding that they expel Hezbollah from their Lebanese soil.”Okay, so…Is Hezbollah really the organization at fault here or what? And I am sorry if you have posted an answer to that somewhere on your blog already. I only ask because I wish to understand.

  7. Anonymous · · Reply

    Nations turn a blind eye, and a deaf ear while the attacks continue, but Israel should keep an eye open in the night because it will never sleep well again.This unjust action will bring many sad days upon its people and since they have opened a new door for devastation, they must accept the result of their actions.Arab League says the Peace Process Dead, maybe this will make Israel think many times over if this was the proper action to take. They have now lost ground on any peace talks in the near future.Its one thing to be a fool, its another to be stupid.If the rockets are from Iran, then are not the F16 fighter jets from America? So its more of the same thing. Who is doing what.Lebanon does not need to be struck, and made to suffer for the wrongs of others.GOD PROTECT YOU

  8. Anonymous · · Reply

    You know instead of sitting on your butts coming up with reasons why your current situation is a result of someone else’s action, maybe it’s time you got off your ass and did something about it. You want my sympathy? You want my support? Then show me you want peace. Gather your friends, your family, your neighbors and co-workers. Have all these people do the same and before you know it you will have a mighty voice to be heard. March to where your Government officials hide in safety with signs demanding: ‘Disarm the Hezbollah , ‘Return the Israeli Soldier’ , ‘We Want Peace’ , and anything else you can think of along these lines. Once you get there calmly sit down together and sing a song of Peace and wait, and wait, and wait. You probably won’t be noticed by the world the first day, the first week or even the first month, but people will notice. Others that feel as you do will come and join you and before you know it you will have a group so large that everyone will notice and you will scare your Government and Hezbollah into listening to your demands. Leaders know that when you lose control of the masses you court the end of your rein. I can’t promise that Hezbollah won’t show up and open fire on you, but I can promise you, you will be safe from the Israeli’s. They would not dare to fire on sitting peaceful protestors, they know how Americans felt and still feel about the Tiananmen Square Massacre – majority of Americans would never forgive them for such an act.I will wait and watch but I doubt I will ever see such a scene coming from any Islamic country. Instead I will see men and boys, majority of which cover their faces like cowards, marching through the streets firing guns into the air, burning American and Israeli flags and leaders in effigy.

  9. My heart and thoughts go out to you and yours. May you be well, and may this stop, soon. I don’t pretend to understand the ins and outs of the situation, but I do know that I am totally against targeting innocent civilians.I wish people who felt strongly enough to post strong words would have the courage to add their name.

  10. أمل · · Reply

    Dropped by …Peace upon Lebanon …

  11. أمل · · Reply

    You know.. this though occured to me today ..Where did all the World Cup icons disappear?Shouldn’t there be a repayment for the Lebanese people who screamed their lungs out with “BRazil” and “GErmany” and “Italy” etc etc..Or are the flags just rags

  12. Josh Scholar · · Reply

    <>Bush believes that all the destruction and death – 100 dead, 300 injured, billions of US dollars in loses so far – are still not a worthy price for the clipped and discarded toe nail of one of the soldiers captured.<>More likely he thinks that armed Islamist groups like Hezbollah are trouble everywhere and shouldn’t be allowed to make war.He may still tell Israel to cool it. I wonder what his advisors are telling him.

  13. usaCHRISTIAN · · Reply
  14. Anonymous · · Reply

    Man…I wish the the US administartion would responsibly (!) tell Israel to quit it, but we’re knee deep in Middle East war too—the Islamist threat and all that. Never mind that it’s all a double-standard. Can there be peace between nations when men continually seek advantage over each other? I don’t see it. Hope it ends soon, for the Lebanese and the Israeli people. You’re all the same anyway. All of us one people.

  15. Anonymous · · Reply

    From < HREF="http://Stratfor.com" REL="nofollow">Stratfor.com<>We are now in the period preceding major conventional operations. Israel is in the process of sealing the Lebanese coast. They have disrupted Lebanese telecommunications, although they have not completely collapsed the structure. Israeli aircraft are attacking Hezbollah’s infrastructure and road system. In the meantime, Hezbollah, aware it is going to be hit hard, is in a use-it or-lose-it scenario, firing what projectiles it can into Israel.The Israeli strategy appears to be designed to do two things. First, the Israelis are trying to prevent any supplies from entering Lebanon, including reinforcements. That is why they are attacking all coastal maritime facilities. Second, they are degrading the roads in Lebanon. That will keep reinforcements from reaching Hezbollah fighters engaged in the south. As important, it will prevent the withdrawal and redeployment of heavy equipment deployed by Hezbollah in the south, particularly their rockets, missiles and launchers. The Israelis are preparing the battlefield to prevent a Hezbollah retreat or maneuver.Hezbollah’s strategy has been imposed on it. It seems committed to standing and fighting. The rate of fire they are maintaining into Israel is clearly based on an expectation that Israel will be attacking. The rocketry guarantees the Israelis will attack. Hezbollah has been reported to have anti-tank and anti-air weapons. The Israelis will use airmobile tactics to surround and isolate Hezbollah concentrations, but in the end, they will have to go in, engage and defeat Hezbollah tactically. Hezbollah obviously knows this, but there is no sign of disintegration on its part. At the very least, Hezbollah is projecting an appetite for combat. Sources in Beirut, who have been reliable to this point, say Hezbollah has weapons that have not yet been seen, such as anti-aircraft missiles, and that these will be used shortly. Whatever the truth of this, Hezbollah does not seem to think its situation is hopeless.The uncertain question is Syria. No matter how effectively Israel seals the Lebanese coast, so long as the Syrian frontier is open, Hezbollah might get supplies from there, and might be able to retreat there. So far, there has been only one reported airstrike on a Syrian target. Both Israel and Syria were quick to deny this. What is interesting is that it was the Syrians who insisted very publicly that no such attack took place. The Syrians are clearly trying to avoid a situation in which they are locked into a confrontation with Israel. Israel might well think this is the time to have it out with Syria as well, but Syria is trying very hard not to give Israel casus belli. In addition, Syria is facilitating the movement of Westerners out of Lebanon, allowing them free transit. They are trying to signal that they are being cooperative and nonaggressive.The problem is this: While Syria does not want to get hit and will not make overt moves, so long as the Syrians cannot guarantee supplies will not reach Hezbollah or that Hezbollah won’t be given sanctuary in Syria, Israel cannot complete its mission of shattering Hezbollah and withdrawing. They could be drawn into an Iraq-like situation that they absolutely don’t want. Israel is torn. On the one hand, it wants to crush Hezbollah, and that requires total isolation. On the other hand, it does not want the Syrian regime to fall. What comes after would be much worse from Israel’s point of view. This is the inherent problem built into Israel’s strategy, and what gives Hezbollah some hope. If Israel does not attack Syria, Hezbollah could well survive Israel’s attack by moving across the border. No matter how many roads are destroyed, Israel won’t be able to prevent major Hezbollah formations moving across the border. If they do attack Syria and crush al Assad’s government, Hezbollah could come out of this stronger than ever. Judging from the airstrikes in the past 24 hours, it would appear Israel is trying to solve the problem tactically, by degrading Lebanese transport facilities. That could increase the effectiveness of the strategy, but in the end cannot be sufficient. We continue to think Israel will choose not to attack Syria directly and therefore, while the invasion will buy time, it will not solve the problem. Hezbollah certainly expects to be badly hurt, but it does not seem to expect to be completely annihilated. We are guessing, but our guess is that they are reading Israel’s views on Syria and are betting that, in the long run, they will come out stronger. Of course, Israel knows this and therefore may have a different plan for Syria. At any rate, this is the great unknown in this campaign.The other unknown is the withdrawal of Western nationals from Lebanon. We have received very reliable reports from sources in Lebanon who assure us Hezbollah does not intend to renew hostage taking, which is deemed an old and nonproductive strategy. These same sources have reported splits in Hezbollah over how aggressive it should be. We believe Hezbollah has no current plans for hostage taking. We are not convinced, however, that in the course of the battle it will not change its mind, or that with weakened central control elements, elements of Hezbollah will take hostages as a bargaining chip. Regardless of what Hezbollah is saying now, hostage taking must be taken seriously as a possibility.The U.S. Embassy in Beirut is now saying plans are being developed in concert with the U.S. Defense Department for extracting U.S. nationals from Lebanon. A convoy scheduled to travel from the American University of Beirut to Amman, Jordan, via Syria, was cancelled at the last moment, with participants being told that the embassy has other plans. There are said to be 25,000 U.S. citizens in Lebanon, but many of these are Lebanese-American dual nationals who actually live in Lebanon as Lebanese. These are less visible, less at risk and have greater resources for survival. The most at-risk Americans are those who hold only U.S. papers and are clearly American, such as employees of American companies, students studying at Lebanese universities and tourists. There is no clear count of these high-risk nationals, nor is there a count on high-risk nationals from other non-Islamic countries. There are thousands, however, and getting them out will be difficult.The U.S. Embassy is considering flying them to Cyprus. That would mean an air bridge from Beirut International Airport, where a single runway has been opened, to Cyprus, a short flight away. The United States will not do this while Beirut is under attack, so it will ask the Israelis to create a safe zone and air corridor during the evacuation. But the threat on the ground is real, and we suspect the United States will send troops in to secure the perimeter and surrounding areas against shoulder-launched missiles. They will also keep the precise timing secret, although thousands of people in Lebanon — the evacuees — will know it is coming.There was a Marine Expeditionary Force on maneuvers in the Red Sea a few days ago. We do not know where they are now, but they had 2,200 marines on board — the right number to secure extraction. We suspect aircraft will be chartered from airlines in the region and that some U.S. Air Force and allied aircraft might also be used. Doubtless, the United States is busy organizing it. Given that the United States cancelled several ad hoc withdrawals, it must be highly confident it has the process nailed; we would expect this operation to get going sometime Sunday. Assuming aircraft that can carry any average of 200 people (purely arbitrary), 50-100 flights could get everyone out. Assuming that everyone can be notified and can get to Beirut International Airport. That won’t happen. The remainder who are at risk will probably be advised to move into Christian areas east and northeast of Beirut and to keep their heads down for the duration. It is also possible that discussion of Cyprus notwithstanding, the path will be through Syria, but we doubt that. In the meantime, that Israel has not sent major ground units into Lebanon yet (lots of small units are operating there) but is taking rocket attacks and hunkering down indicates it does not plan to act piecemeal. If we were to guess, the main thrust would likely begin late Sunday night or Monday morning. They will be ready by then. Of course we are not privy to Israeli operations, so it could be delayed 24-48 hours to give forces a chance to gear up. But given the Hezbollah bombardment, the Israelis are under pressure to move sooner rather than later. We are in a relatively quiet spell (emphasis on quiet). Both sides have made their strategic decisions. Both know how the war will be fought. Hezbollah thinks it can give as good as it will get for a while, and will ultimately be able to regroup for a guerrilla war against the Israelis. Israel thinks it can immobilize and crush Hezbollah quickly and decisively and will be able to withdraw. Both sides know Syria is the wild card, and neither is quite sure how it will play its hand. One side is wrong in its expectations about the outcome. That’s the nature of war.

  16. Rebel · · Reply

    Israel should STOP NOW!!! There is no way that Israel went to Lebanon just to rescue these two captured soldiers who were in conflict with Hezbollah soldiers in the border of Isreael and Lebanon. ITS’ JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE! Isreal still occupies much of the Land that belongs to Lebanon and left thousands and thousands of land mines that injures/kills Lebanese people everyday. THIS IS A BIG EXCUSE FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL TO ACT ON LEBANON UPON ITS OWN INTEREST. Up to this day, Isreal holds thousands of Lebanese or arabs dated back as early as 1982 in Israeli prisons violating international laws. As it looks, Israel has no intention in making peace and only escalating the situation by commiting ‘Nazi Like Behavior’. THE GOVERNMENT OF LEBANON HAS REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR CEASE-FIRE, WHO IS ACTUALLY ASKING INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE TO INTERVENE AND YET, THEY DO NOTHING AND WATCH THIS GRUESOME MASSACRE OF INNOCENT LEBANESE PEOPLE. WHY? SIMPLY BECAUSE ISREAL CAN AND HAVE THE POWER AND SUPPORT FROM THE WEST, WHERE ARAB LEADERS ARE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES WHO ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR COUNTRY, being more specific, THEIR KINGDOM IN WHICH THEY WISH RETAIN THEIR POSITION AS KINGS. Some of these kings are from Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Morocco and Egypt’s President Mubarak(a dictator who’s been in power for 20 years) all close allies of United States. Despite their representation the Arab world, they could not pressure enough The International Committee to inervine. U.N. HAS DONE NOTHING! IS THERE ANY NEED FOR U.N?, as it seems it is totally incompetent at doing its job. U.N. replaced the League of Nations because the League of Nations was ineffective, but as it seems the U.N. is also very ineffective i.e. Massacare at Rowanda, 1994.SOME FOLKS UP HERE POSTED SOME COMMENTS AND AS IT SEEMS THEY ARE COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL. THEY ARE WRITING EXACTLY WHAT THE PROPAGANDA IS SPREADING AND TOTALLY OBLIVIOUS OF THE TRUTH AND THEIR OWN MIND. HAS ISRAEL HAD NOT OCCUPIED LEBANON BEFORE, THIS SITUATION WOULD NOT HAVE COME TO THIS POINT. THEIR INVASION CREATED HEZBOLLAH LONG AGO AND LEFT THE PROBLEM UNSOLVED, JUST LIKE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN IRAQ WITH UNITED STATES IF THEY FAIL. NOW ISRAEL IS MAKING EXCUSE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THEY CANNONT SOLVE, THEY CAN ONLY LIMIT THE NUMBER OF HEZBOLLAH MEMBERS BUT NOT THE HEZBOLLAH ITSELF. HEZBOLLAH MEMBERS ARE PATRIOTS OF THEIR COUNTRY, TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR COUNTRY AND SAVE THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS FROM ZIONIST REGIME EVEN IT MEANS TO SWAP PRISONERS. ANYBODY WOULD DO THE SAME WHERE THEY DON’T HAVE ANY MILITARY POWER OR ANY VOICE IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE LIKE THE U.N. ISRAEL LEFT THE UNSTABLE GOVERNMENT OF LEBANON, WHICH IT CANNONT CONTROL A GROUP LIKE HEZBOLLAH AND ONLY ISREAL SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND THEIR ‘DISPROTIONATE ACTION’ DOESN’T JUSTIFY KILLINGS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS AND THEIR RETALIATION OF CAPTURED SOLDIERS.FOLKS, PLEASE BE RATIONAL. IT IS VERY EASY TO SEE THROUGH A GLASS THAT HAS REFLECTION (THE PROPAGANDA, POWER, SUPPORT), BUT NOT IN ONE THAT IS JUST A MERE PIECE OF GLASS. ONCE YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE MERE GLASS, THEN YOU’VE ACHIEVED TRUTH!

  17. Nightstudies · · Reply

    Rebel, in your all-caps, shouting opinion, would Israel ending the constant attacks by Hezbollah, by, say <>defeating Hezbollah<>, be a conspiracy?Anyway, I think defeating Hezbollah is the reason for their “Nazi like behavior”.Bombing highways and airports cuts Hezbollah’s supply lines. That’s just classic warfare.

  18. Nightstudies · · Reply

    Or, say that their goal is to deprive Hezbollah of the ability to fire missiles into Israel, would <>that<> be a conspiracy, “Rebel”?

  19. Anonymous · · Reply

    In the above postings you have asked why there is no U.N. intervention. I think I can answer this question. The truth is the Americans have always been the first to stand up and fight for other countries/people being oppressed by others. The majority of funds that the U.N. uses for these type of interventions comes from the Americans as well. They are the ones that put fire beneath the feet of other leaders to do right by the people. Unfortunately the victim today is also linked with the same terrorist that killed over 3,000 Americans on 911. Classic Example: Americans have gone from sympathy for the Palestinians because they only have rocks to throw at men with guns and bullets, to feeling they deserve what they get because they associate themselves with terrorist groups. Lebanon is guilty by association.

  20. Nightstudies · · Reply

    anonymous (right above), you’re an idiot.

  21. Rebel · · Reply

    +Rebel, in your all-caps, shouting opinion, would Israel ending the constant attacks by Hezbollah, by, say defeating Hezbollah, be a conspiracy? As I mentioned, they can’t defeat Hezbollah, they can only weaken them for the time being. This attack on Lebanon will only create thousands of Hezbollahs in near future. The only way to defeat Hezbollah is if they defeat Syria and Iran, which I think they plan on doing with help of United States and England. But that is not the real reason why they are attacking Lebanon. Syria and Iran has become a big threat recently to United States and Israel especially with Iran’s attempt to have nuclear weapons. Before Iran can get nuclear weapons, Israel and United States want to make sure they can’t and that is the reason why Israel is attacking Lebanon is to drag Syria and Iran into this. When Syria and Iran intervene, United States as well as England will deploy troops from Iraq to fight against Syria and Iran, and thus kill their threats. It wont’ cost any money for United States for attacking Syria nor Iran as they already have everything they need in Iraq. So far, their plan is working pefectly, it is just a matter of time Syria intervenes. + Or, say that their goal is to deprive Hezbollah of the ability to fire missiles into Israel, would that be a conspiracy, “Rebel”?Not conspiracy, but stupidity and terrorism. Isreal created Hezbollah. This is as simple as that. When they created Hezbollah? when they occupied Lebanon, some lands in Syria and some land in Egypt, not to mention Palestine.

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