Winograd’s lamentation

Whether Israel carries out investigations about its failures in the war it waged against Lebanon in July 2006 or not, that is not the point. Whether Winograd’s Report is published in part or in full, that is not the issue. Whether Olmert resigns and Netanyahu or Barak becomes prime minister, all will be the same.

The core of the matter is very simple: Israel wants the world to believe that it is a democratic and just country which holds its officials accountable for their actions.
And it does. Israel’s officials, whatever their ranks are, are answerable for any action, grave or minute, that counters the highest interest of the Zionists. And that is all.

Winograd’s report did not blame Israeli officials for destroying half of Lebanon, killing more than 1200 Lebanese civilians, of whom more than 60% were babies and children, nor for the use of cluster bombs, which, by the way, “are not harmful if used properly” according to U. S. of Bush.
Winograd’s report essentially blames the Israeli political and military officials for failing to destroy the other half of Lebanon and for not killing and wiping out more Lebanese. It blames them for waging a war that lead to the killing of 33 Israeli soldiers.

This report will have no effect on Israeli policies, whoever takes the place of whomever. Israel will always be an extremist Zionist state with no regard for human rights except for those whom it considers humans. It will remain an extremist military state with no regard for any form of peace except the one that keeps it superior in its brutality or a peace which it can utilize as a truce during which it prepares itself for its next war. This is so until it fulfils its fantasy of a Greater Israel with borders from Euphrates to the Nile.

NB:
1– Winograd Report shames Israel’s army for letting a paramilitary group of a couple of thousands to stand up in the face of the strongest army in the Middle East and forbidding it from accomplishing its task of dismantling, defeating, destroying the same paramilitary group.
2– Olmert declared that the war waged in July 2006 was planned and prepared for, long before July 2006.

22 comments

  1. Anonymous · · Reply

    You’re like the guy whomurders his parents and then cries for mercy fromthe court because you’re an orphan.Don’t choose war with Israel unless you want to get hurt.And don’t shoot from populated areas and then complain when your “civilians” get hurt.Any part of that unclear, Abed?

  2. Moussa,“Israel’s officials, whatever their ranks are, are answerable for any action, grave or minute, that counters the highest interest of the Zionists.” I am not sure of that. Right now the Winograd will produce nothing in policy change because the Israeli political elite is in a deadlock and nobody wants to go to elections. The level of incompetence, corruption, and nepotism in the Israeli state. They are only slightly different from their neighbopring Arab countries. Israel used to be a parliamentary democracy based on merit but not anymore. This is partly why they lost the Lebanese war. Did you see how the report managed to keep Olmert’s head safe ? Well at least, we can be satisfied with the fact that they are not able to get rid of their incompetent and corrupt Politicans. Consider this as a punishment for Zionists…Thanks for this post Moussa. That makes a nice birthday gift for me on this Feb 9th day.

  3. Anonymous · · Reply

    Actually that’s incorrect- wishful thinking. Look at Transparency International’s Corruption Index:http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2007Out of the 179 countries, Israel is 30th; not amazing but not too bad either. It’s of course ranked higher than any Arab or Muslim country (besides France).Lebanon is 99th, by the way. Congratulations.

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  5. Yes, Israeli Army answers to the Israeli government, and Israeli government answers to the Israeli public.Whom does Lebanese government answer to? And how does Lebanese army take care of the interest of the state of Lebanon? If a paramilitary organization like Hezbollah could run things single-handedly in a large portion of the country and could, for all practical purposes, fight a full-blown war with a neighboring state, it means that the army of the state of Lebanon abandoned its responsibility. If it had not, Lebanon could keep Hezbollah under control, and there would have been no war. It did not, the war started, and the army of Israel did what it could to defend the people of Israel. Not the people of Lebanon. The people of Israel. Is that a surprise to you? That the army of Israel is fighting for the interests of Israel and not Lebanon?

  6. Simon and the first Anonymous are completely deluded and erecting straw men. Anonymous, Hezbollah didn’t choose war with Israel, they captured combatants after months of Israeli aggressions and illegal overflights into Lebanese airspace (and keeping thousands of Lebanese prisoners).Its the worse-than apartheid expansionist settler state of Israel that demonstrably wanted and planned for the war, not Lebanon.And your orphan analogy is way out. Here’s another, better one for you.:“An old Jewish joke tells of a devoted mother who briefs her son before he sets out to battle”, relates Nehemia Shtrasler in So what have we done to them (Ha’aretz, 19 Dec 2007). “Kill a Turk and rest,” she advises. But the son asks: “And what happens if in fact the Turk tries to kill me?” She opens her eyes wide in surprise: “Why would he want to kill you? What have you done to him?”Simon, I don’t se anywhere where anyone saying the IOF is or should be fighting for the interests of Lebanon. Whether its activities are in fact in Israel’s interests is another matter. But what is not an issue is “keeping Hezbollah under control”, nor have the Lebanese Army relinquished their responsibility. Hezbollah have exercised very judicious restraint. Shia make up half the Lebanese Army, and there’s a natural synergy with the Lebanee Army and Hezbollah forces. The Irgin and Haganah were eventually incorporated into the IDF cum IOF. Starting a belligerent war using the flimsy pretext of two soldiers being captured and a couple killed is not “defending Israel”. Hasbara propaganda and no-one believes it with half a brain. Israel will find a pretext regardless of hezbollah, and its belliciity is disgusting. No wonder its the most hated country in the word next to the US (government — but only because it has been hijacked by Israel-first zionits). As for the corruption index, that’s only one. And other indices put Israel right down the bottom. One of my favorites is last year’s Global Peace Index, aggregating a number of indicators, which put Israel in the bottom three. Sounds about right.

  7. Sophia, A very happy birthday to you for the 9th — fellow Aquarian.

  8. Anonymous · · Reply

    ann,Wishful thinking. Even As’ad, Abukhalil, the Angry Arab, had a piece the other day about buildings in Lebanon that are still piles of rubble and haven’t been rebuilt.Nearly 2 years after the “victorious” war against Israel, and the Hizbullah-occupied areas of Lebanon are still in ruins with no electricity or water in many places- not to mention the fact that Hizbullah no longer sits o the border like they did beforehand, no longer has the clout they did, and even Nasrallah was demoted by his Iranian bosses.Oh yeah,and after the self-destructive war, Nasrallah even said that if he knew that Israel would kick their terrorist asses, he wouldn’t have started it in the 1st place.Only An Arab can call that a “victory”.War = naqba

  9. I’ll ignore your implicitly racist comment that only an Arab could call that a victory — only an Israeli zionist could say Israel somehow provides a safe haven for jews when it is the worst place for the Israeli terrorist state and zionism has obviously failed as many people are increasingly observing — and tell you that I have recently been to the south of Lebanon as well as southern Beiruti suburbs and seen the construction work. Hezbollah retains its influence and alliance with Aoun despite all the psyops and black flag ops happening in the country. No, the war wasn’t “self” destructive, it was deliberately planned months prior by the murderous Israeli terror-regime who were just looking for a pretext. Nasrallah’s statement is neither here nor there, his was a strategy that has yielded prisoner exchanges in the past. IsraHell wasn’t “beaten”, but it was beaten back, just as Hezbollah helped expel them out of South Lebanon in 2000. Israel can no more win a war than ‘win’ a volcano, and more people are waking to the perfidy of this insidious warmongering exclusive-entitlement ideology called ‘zionism’.

  10. Hi Moussa,I have tagged you in my latest post to perform this exercice: list six things one should do, or shouldn’t do, before 18. Read the rules of the game in my latest post and do it only if you feel OK about it. I know there are many worries for you now in Lebanon and pray and hope that the clouds will clear.

  11. Anonymous · · Reply

    ann,Ignore the truth. Arabs call it a “victory” but anyone else on earth would call it a horrible, painful defeat from which Hizbullah still hasn’t recovered 2 years later.I was up north in Israel just a couple months ago and with binoculars, saw with my own eyes that the areas formerly run by Hizbullah are still in ruins.Lie all you want, but those who know the truth won’t be deceived.The simple fact is that Jews ARE safe in Israel. The busses and restaurants are packed, people go on hikes all over, our kids play outside without fear, and I don’t know of any street that my wife would be afraid to walk down at night.And this includes the northern border nxt to where Hizbullah once was- and is no more.Call it what you want, but that won’t change the fact that Hizbullah is still hurting badly.As they should be.🙂<>< HREF="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1185893683874&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" REL="nofollow">HIZBULLAH OFFICER: WE WOULD’VE GIVEN UP<>“The cease-fire acted as a life jacket for the organization [at the end of the Second Lebanon War],” a Hizbullah officer said in an interview aired by Channel 10 on Tuesday. In the interview, the unnamed officer said Hizbullah gunmen would have surrendered if the fighting last summer had continued for another 10 days. His statement sharply contrasted with those made by Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah on several occasions since the monthlong war. At the end of the war, Nasrallah said his organization had gained a “divine victory.” The officer shown on Channel 10 said the organization’s gunmen had been running low on food and water and facing rapidly diminishing arms supplies. The officer also said that many Hizbullah commanders were ordered to hide before the war started, and that the gunmen who remained were forced to fire Katyusha rockets from inside urban populations because of the IDF’s efficiency in destroying launchers minutes after a launch had been detected. He said that when the gunmen relocated to cities and villages, they knew innocent civilians would be hurt as a consequence. The quick arrival of IAF jets at rocket-launch sites, sometimes only four to five minutes after a Katyusha was fired, “surprised” Hizbullah, the officer said.<>

  12. Thanks for the laugh, Anonymous. You clearly believe your own deceit. Hezbollah have their own reasons for relocating away from the border, some of the domestic. Not everything revolves around Israel.More and more people are leaving Israel and speaking out against its policies: Shulamit Aloni, Ilan Pappe, Ran HaCohen, Avrum Burg, the list is endless. And the residents of Sderot wouldn’t agree with you. Overall, Israel is now one of the most hated states in the world, and survives only by the unwitting largesse of the US taxpayer and the mobilisation of an extensive hasbara machine. Thanks to mediums such as the web, hasbara is rendered less effective at duping people, and the US is susceptible to economic collapse and imperial overstretch, with more and more prominent people speaking up against the insidious influence of the Israel Lobby.Your prospects aren’t good. As it should be.🙂

  13. Anonymous · · Reply

    LOL! Their “own reasons” are that they were FORCED to run away and hide.Those who weren’t killed (600) or captured (13).Now it’s the Lebanese army and UNIFIL in their places.You obviously have no clue (as we already know) because a recent poll showed that an overwhelming majority of Israelis believe that we were justified in fighting back against Arab aggression from Lebanon.Including the residents of Sderot- which is in the south- not near Lebanon.<>< HREF="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125210" REL="nofollow">Sderot Rabbi: ‘Northern Gaza Must Be Conquered Immediately’ Sderot residents are demanding the government allow the IDF to put an end to the constant Kassam rocket and mortar attacks on the city and surrounding areas, in the wake of an attack Saturday evening in which an eight-year-old boy lost his leg.Israel National TV interviews Rabbi David Fendel, head of the Sderot Hesder Yeshiva about the situation.<><>As to who is leaving, it’s the terrorists:<>Where young Palestinians once dreamed of staying to build a new state, now many are giving up and scheming to get out. According to Nader Said’s polls for Birzeit University, 35 percent of Palestinians over the age of 18 want to emigrate. Nearly 50 percent of those between 18 and 30 would leave if they could, said Mr. Said. “That’s a huge indicator,” he said. “In the worst of times here, when Israeli troops were everywhere, the figure in the population was less than 20 percent.”Even the young fighters of the Abu Rish brigade have tried to leave. Muhammad and Saado, both 27, sold their weapons, took bank loans and paid $2,000 for visas and tickets from Cairo to Beijing on Austrian Airlines.http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/12/world/middleeast/12intifada.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all<>Thanks to mediums such as the web, maybe one day the Arabs will learn that their violence and aggression will not weaken the nation of Israel’s resolve.But it WILL destroy the aggressors themselves.🙂

  14. Oh, the tangled web you weave🙂 Its you who has no clue. Yes, we know about the bellicose Israeli population, who are increasingly leaving. And we also know that the mayor of Sderot has broken away and has offered to talk to the other “enemy”, Hamas. The aggressors are all on your side. Your pitiful response is so riddled with false bravado and belligerency you are completely out of touch. No use wasting one’s time. Live in your terrorist bubble. I won’t prick your delusion, just humour it.

  15. Anonymous · · Reply

    Ann,YOU have no clue. I guess it’s because being way over there in Australia, you miss what’s going on.The mayor of Sderot said yesterday that he was misquoted, so nope- you’re still wrong.And the people of Sderot aren’t interested in capitulating to terror either. We won’t talk to Hamas: We will starve them to death.For peace.🙂The aggressors can eat their qassams and drink sea water- until they die.

  16. Anonymous, you assume I’m in Australia but you know nothing about me.Thank you so much for confirming to us all just how bloodthirsty Israelis are. But then there was always truth to ritual murders of Christian children by Jews, as shown by < HREF="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=827036" REL="nofollow">historian Ariel Toaff. <>Context, schmontext, even Olmert has had to admit that the < HREF="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/956859.html" REL="nofollow"> Iron Dome system found to be helpless against Qassams<>.Gaza, the West Bank, Syria, Lebanon, Iran … how many fronts do you want to fight the war you are itching to fight on, reeling from the IOF being sent back with their tails between their legs from southern Lebanon, twice? Your comment shows you do want peace, and that moral decay has sunk deep into your state. No one needs to destroy you anymore. You will destroy yourself.

  17. Wishful thinking of course that “you do want peace”, duly corrected to you evidently <>don’t<> want peace.Goodbye anonymous. May your children, if you have any, never grow up with as much hate and bigotry as you. Fortunately there are some Israelis who sense, and you are not one of them.This discussion is over for me, you are not worth wasting time on.

  18. Moussa,You shouldn’t do the tag post unless you really want to do it. I never, ever, answer some chain letters or anything near that. However I did the tag post because I find it amusing. Please don’t if you don’y feel the motivation, otherwise I will feel awfully guilty for having tagged you.

  19. Anonymous · · Reply

    <>< HREF="http://peoplesgeography.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/ann-in-study.jpg" REL="nofollow">ANN- I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT YOU<><>.Not that it matters or that I really care. Fact is that you’re irrelevant.Fact is that if you start up with Israel, you get hurt. That’s not a bloodthirsty statement. It’s a fact of life. If you leave Israel alone, then you get left alone.As to your next claim, <>< HREF="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/957357.html" REL="nofollow">ONE AGAIN YOU ARE PROVEN TO BE A LIAR.<><>Arguing with you is like shooting fish in a barrel. Of course you say that context isn’t important. That’s the answer of a brainless child.And of course the iron dome isn’t the answer. Reconquering our land is- doing in Gaza what we did in Jenin, and then remaining:<>< HREF="http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005768" REL="nofollow">ISRAEL PROVES THERE IS A MILITARY SOLUTION TO TERRORISM<><>As to how many fronts, we will fight on any and every front until there is peace. We have peace now in Judea and Samaria. We will have it on the others once we do what we need to do.And the violent barbarians who keep attacking us will keep suffering more and more until they stop with their barbaric violence. That will happen one way or another.How ever it happens, we’ll still be here.They may not be.

  20. Oh Anonymous, you are a twit. So you googled Ann and the site linked to from the first comment, big deal. You still don’t know anything about me. It’s telling you went to so much trouble (to so little gain), yet then contradict yourself by claiming Ann is irrelevant. Anyone can write Ann in the name field.Didn’t say context wasn’t important, only the context YOU claimed which is less than worthless.Thanks for bringing up context — Ariel Shoaff recanted SOME of what he claimed — not all — just as Galileo did — under heavy bullying. That’s a trademark of your kind, and only shows the lobbying efforts to compromise the truth.Its not your land to reconquer and if you think there can be a military solution, this is further demonstration of your utter delusion. Nothing short of genocide will get rid of the Palestinians who live in their own land stolen by you. Slow genocide, just as Ilan Pappe shows, is the only strategy you have. Ironic, isn’t it? It shows the only barbarians are you. The world knows it.

  21. Anonymous · · Reply

    Ann,He recanted because it isn’t true.On the other hand, < HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPU4UN03t7E" REL="nofollow">THE RELIGION OF PIECES DOES BELIEVE IN HUMAN SACRIFICES.<>We obviously won’t tolerate that child sacrifice here in our land, and the good news is that the barbarian child-sacrificing murderers are leaving- as I showed you above from the New York Times article.Yes- they have tried genocide. < HREF="http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php" REL="nofollow">THEY SUPPORTED HITLER THEN<>, and < HREF="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/BlessHitler.jpg" REL="nofollow">THEY STILL SUPPORT HITLER NOW<>.< HREF="http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/18.htm" REL="nofollow">YOU’RE PART OF A VERY SICK SOCIETY<> that is abhorent to the civilized world- and is only becoming more repugnant as time passes and you commit your vile acts against more people everywhere.It’s only a matter of time until youare expelled from Australia- and the US, and Europe, and Israel, and everywhere else that you are commanded to<>< HREF="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/" REL="nofollow">“Fight those who do not believe in Allah, … nor follow the religion of truth… until they pay the tax in acknowledg-ment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.” Qur’an, Sura 9:29<><>And the funniest thing is that you venerate Pappe:<>Pappe, who ran for Israel’s parliament as a Communist and was soundly rejected in Israel’s democracy then embarked on an ignominious campaign attacking Israel. As a tenured history professor (and a marginally recognized one in normal historical circles), Pappe found his niche and fortunes touring the world as an Israeli for the PLO. His most recent notoriety came about in Israel over a libel trial in which one of his protégés presented a thesis describing a massacre of Palestinians in 1948 that never occurred. [2] The Israeli soldiers accused of the atrocities sued and Pappe’s student, Theodore Katz, was forced on the witness stand to admit he fabricated the whole thing under Pappe’s direction as his faculty advisor. It later turned out the student was paid $8,000 by the PLO to do the story. The University of Haifa pulled the degree<>http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11195You jihadis love liars, and <>< HREF="http://www.freelebanon.org/articles/a135.htm" REL="nofollow">ARAFAT THE EGYPTIAN WAS THE PARADIGM:“Arafat is a pathological liar; we signed 72 ceasefires with him in a span of 18 months in 1975-1976, and he broke each and every one of them, whenever he felt that the balance of power was shifting to his advantage. To refresh the memory, he is quoted to have said: ‘I am ready to kill for the sake of my cause; wouldn’t I lie for it?’”…<><>

  22. Anonymous · · Reply

    Yawn.

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